The Pico will eat any ammo I have fed it, and has proven flawless with thousands of rounds down range. When he says the People have spoken who the heck is that? Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. According to our peers, here are the six worst pocketguns, from less awful to worstest. But, it doesnt like to be dirty. We buy a pocket gun for last-ditch self defense, which literally makes it a do-or-die gun. Nice little write up- and way to plug your site. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. Every trigger Ive ever pulled is better than the LCP. The Pico is top notch. My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. This only naturally makes it more difficult to fire properly like we just talked about. So far wevecollected roughly 34,000 votes with an average rating of 6.1 overall. And I dont know why Keltec lets Ruger & SCCY(and the defunct hellcat) slavishly copy their designs. Taurus 738: Price $355.66. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. I own two of them, shoot pockets guns each week and have been for years. And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. Yes, he and others are social media whizkids, but not firearm experts. I still have the same problem. I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. When I hear someone put down the Pico, I know they do not shoot often. It is not made for quick magazine changes. George have you tried a different ammo brand? Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. CPX 2. This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. Take the guns in this article, for example: did people downvote them because they were too uncomfortable to fire? either love or hate. Do you perhaps have a very early one? I found that many mags for the Hellcat where not cut properly with too much play at the catch. I really get the feeling you know little about the Pico. So there. On that note, you KNOW were kind of spoiled with all the great pocket guns available today. How is this journalisim? Designed to be smaller and more compact than the Nambu 14 for use by armored vehicle crewmen and pilots, the pistol had design Wouldnt take much time for an employee or contractor of one of these manufacturers to buff up the ratings, or down rate a competitor. The trigger is long and weighty but smooth. It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. A bunch. I normally enjoy Truth about guns. The Manual says clearly not to dry fire the gun without snap caps. Wisdom of the crowd is an awfully unknown thing to be making life-and-death decisions on. Fed, fired and ejected all the ammo I put in it. I certainly wouldnt be happy. No gun, none, should have a mag release that is that stiff and impossible to use fast and effectively, especially in a carry gun none the less. Presenting statistics like this isnt representative of the actual quality of the product, but the opinion of those who voted. Apparently their readership likes Sigs with large sample sizes. Or had a bad exp. Whatever-everything else pops inand their FB page is odd too. WebSmith & Wesson Model 500 is a five-shot, single action/double-action large caliber revolver produced by Smith & Wesson, firing the .500 S&W Magnum cartridge, a .50 caliber bullet. Having visited that site, I dont think their rating system really gives me enough information to choose between firearms. Funny the SCCY was rated on 2 other surveys as one of the top 5 affordable and reliable pocket guns. Ruger LCP II .380 ($349) My hands are simply too large for the tiny Ruger. Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. Maybe something like this? And worst and I do mean worst of all is the Magazine release, which might be the most poorly placed, poorly designed and impossible mag release on any gun ive ever handled. Thats not exactly The TRUTH About Guns. Though my CW380 was also unreliable and pinched my finger after firing. I doubt he even read the directions. Top 5 .380 Pistols Our Top Pick Glock 42 .380 ACP Sportsmans Warehouse (Check Price) Palmetto State Armory (Check Price) Primary Arms (Check In other words, its not pleasant to shot at all. Is it possible to find a Hellcat II that runs well, shoots well and fits well? And I have not shot one better then these in the same weight and AOL class. Using that, Ive compiled a spreadsheet of the resultsby filtering down 200+ subcompact handguns, first by caliber (nothing weaker than .380 ACP), and then by size (nothing bigger than 5.77 long x 4.4 tall).That left 44 semi-autos, which I sorted by each guns average user rating. And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. Take down the Pico. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. Thats whats currently on my hip and I love it. Go to some of the forums and you will seem many post and pictures from fans. This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. I think Jimenez and Lorcen companies went bankrupt. I like its feel in my hand. When I dress up, the P380 is the best answer to the pocket-carry problem. You get two shots, a single-action-only Its fun to shoot really, PS: visited the site again, feeling slightly guilty for harping on the polling validity-. YES, of course Id rate the G19 at least from a practical, hardcore perspective an obviously more robust, serious combat-capable CC piece, but when you think about it, here I am comparing a Glock 19 to a SCCY CPX-2 for certain situations and that HAS to be a compliment to the SCCY, in an offhand way (and dont accuse me of being a Glock fanboy I own diverse alternatives, and was actually very slow by choice getting into the Glock game.) IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. My God, have you really shot or even handled one? That being said, the LCP II can also be carried IWB or in an ankle holster just as easily as it could be carried in a pocket. The list is pretty laughable, though, because drawing conclusions from such a tiny sample of unvetted ratings is deeply, deeply flawed. The mag will spring out when done correctly. I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . I met Leghorn at a Range Day last year and he knows little about handling a weapon. Any failure rates? They are all solid, dependable, and reliable. The Picos have a huge fan base. Yes, Im sure theyre out there, but the odds youll score one of those unicorns remain low. Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. Yet one more advantage for the LCP II is the fact that the slide locks back on the final round fired to signal you are empty. I called the factory and was accused of limp wristing. Total joke. Was definitely surprised that certain other brands didnt make the list. No I dont own one I own two. I love this site and usually stand behind the things written on it, but this is absolute trash and clickbait. Im curious as to how you derived your +/- error bars and why you are calling 25-50 votes statistically significant. Those are awfully small sample sizes compared to the number of guns of each make/model in production. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg Both nice guns, the Pico is the clear winner. Sleek design, totally snag proof. customer service should you need it that transfers with the gun. Far too many people have shot themselves or objects in their house loading a NAA revolver because they didnt pay attention to safety instructions. Bought it brand new. The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. Oh well the TCP I had isnt top 5-it ran good for me. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. Wrong about sccy. Its teeny, accurate, and easy to handle. One of the finest pocket guns out there. His comment about the mag release tell xme his knowledge of the Beretta Pico is limited to picking one up at the most. they gladly took it back and said the Cobra .380 was selling like hotcakes. 8===D~. WHAT ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE .380 POCKET PISTOL? As long as you shoot the recommended ammo and keep your weapon cleaned, oiled properly, and replace any defective parts you will get much better performance. A 9mm shouldnt be slower than a .45. Which is good compared to many overpriced semi auto pistols which are not as dependable. S&W Bodyguard .380 7. It shoots a powerful pistol cartridge in a light gun. No thanks. I just went through your site and clicked a one star on every gun over $500 and a 10 star on every gun under $500 with my only basis being I dont currently have an expendable $500 in my pocket and I dont like them because they are out of my budget Just kidding, I didnt, but anyone out there could do it, which is why I think your system is incredibly flawed by not at least holding reviewers to having to list a reason. Uh no. Small, accurate and reliable. The trigger seem to be the trouble people have with it. It would likely be more meaningful. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). These are last resort concealment guns with a lot of punch in a small package. Do you really know anything about pocket guns? . You fire as soon as you pull and have aimed. Web.380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. I must be the unicorn master then, because I own each of the firearms listed, except the Hellcat, (I have never heard of it before this article) and have never had an issue with any of them. Im about to order some more. Heck, the CM40s steel-framed brother, the MK40, is currently ranked in the top 5 (granted, with only 10 votes so far). Sure you can spend $500 on a Glock or what ever else you want to list but the specs on this gun make it a easy choice and hell I can buy two for the price of most good guns. Just my two. While the track is double, both trains were traveling in opposite directions on the same line near the Vale of Tempe, a river valley about 380 kilometers (235 miles) north of Athens. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . Super gun, works every time. When you insert a fresh magazine, it will be easier to rack the slide this way as well. Shoots fine, never a problem, kills my hand. Hey, look Try the Sig P938 If you are truly carrying for protection you dont mind the Sig Price if your life is on the line and the P938 shoots like a minature 1911 Love mine and have had several friends buy them after shooting my P938 SAS. I broke the firing pin on the first day. In fact, reading them, even with comments, is quite nearly a waste of time. To start with they sat on it for 2 whole years teasing a release and it just kept getting pushed back further and further. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. I carry the SCCY more often and have cycled quite a few rounds through it. I have literally spoken to no one that has said anything positive about the Pico. Great gun otherwise. The trigger guard on the LCP has also been enlarged in order to accommodate a gloved finger without risking pulling the trigger. This gun looks a whole lot like the Ruger LCP and Kel-Tec P-3AT. Oh not to mention Sccy has great SRP: $269. Trash. If its good Ill spread the word. The reason I hated it was they are DAO and the trigger pull was a mile long, i found my self pulling the trigger again before it reset. I bought it after reading the review on TTAG. Too small, too weak, too much plastic. Built like a tank. http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ The Pico is a great gun. The gun design has never worked well . Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. The spreadsheet seems flawed to me. You really missed this one. Most of the post are from newbies that know very little about guns in the first place. Even though its not made anymore, Ive been interested in trying out a Taurus PT638 if I ever ran across one for a reasonable price, anyone have any experience with one? This article was total BS. The Ruger LCP II, released by Ruger at the end of 2016, sought to remedy many of those downsides. Shoot to make the thug dead. But the reset on the trigger was so ridiculously long Id often miss follow up shots because I handt let it out far enough to reset. I dont care for the finger grooves, the chunky feel, or the bullets rattling in the magazine when they arent stacked just right. I would very much like to see your proof/examples. What really won me over was the quality and operation, even on the bargain CM. just kidding 32,490 views Aug 21, 2021 1.1K Dislike Share nutnfancy 852K subscribers Another ranting reviewoh man we do not like Have you ever even shot one? Their guns get copied because George Kelgren never copyrighted the designs. Thats when I could get them to respond to my emails, that is. Yea, guns like Diamondback, Jiminez, Lorcen, High Point and so forth have always had poor reputations, but guns like SCCY and the now Springfield Armory XD were initially poo pooed but turn out to be good guns The thing stinks. I am a Pocket gun enthusiast. Extremely Mild, Plus P rated, Modular design, mags that look like Custom 1911 stainless steel. An odd shaped frame that in my opinion they actually went too small on trying to outdo everyone to be the king of small in 380s. He says it is a blunder. You do that and you will find hipoints and cobras to work as they are intended. How many times are there accidental discharges from soft triggers? The cobra looks very similar to a firearm my mother owns. Its is almost universally panned from young guys working behind the counter at Academy Sports to anyone who works in local gun shops. ! Silver tip p+ for carry, or whatever local law enforcement carries. .380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) This ammunition round was first introduced by Colt back in 1908, to use in its new Colt Model 1908, which was a compact, hammerless semi-automatic pistol. Its not. Like others, I am a bit surprised by the poor showing of the Beretta. Sig without question is the "Caddilac". Actually bought a second one. The muzzle blast can be quite impressive and women should definitely fire their guns at the range. Web.380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) was one of the many calibers created by legendary firearms designer John Browning, dating back to 1908. While larger .380 pistols such as the Walther PPK/S, Walther PK380, Bersa Thunder 380, and Glock 42 dont have this problem, the truly small pocket pistols such as the LCP and TCP most certainly do. I will run the Pico side by side the Kahr any day and have. If one MUST have a 9mm pocket gun, then the Kahr PM9/CM9 is really the only choice. There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. Thats a problem for a pocket gun. More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. In +P it hurt my hand, so I went to regular 38 spcl. Will eventually add a CW380 as a BUG and for times when the CM40 is just too big ha ha. Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. Even the author of this article merely speculates, at times, as to why the readers voted as they did. So the recoil is stout. Actually, the KelTec P11 is the same size, came first and holds two more rounds. Modular design, one of the easiest take downs in the history of guns, fantastic sights, easy to put on night sights without going to a Gun Smith. Not sure why the Sccy is on this list, I own a cpx2 and its great! No sights (Stick it up their nose and pull the trigger). SCCY Industries CPX-2 (4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes) This gun is budget-friendly Even a novice can see the better build quality of the Pico. But with 99 votes in, the math is clear: the CPX-2 stinks. By the way John, I have the Kahr, yes nice gun.Shoots well. Nice gun, but many of Kahr owners go to the Pico and never look back. Thousands of flawless rounds and handles Hot ammo better than most guns handle standard ammo. Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. Simple, easy and the Beretta Pico is in fact one of the most mild shooting Pocket Pistols out there. They have gotten great reviews and by the serial numbers and manufacture dates on the 2 guns, their sales have gone up 4x but the QC has suffered greatly. Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. Three weeks before it was even released. But with the right technique and practice, its fine. Split chassis, cracked frames, split rails, broken take down pins. Stainless STEEL barrel, CHASSIS, best sights made on a pocket gun, Magazines that look like Custume 1911, all stainless steel with even a Steel follower. These are not military combat weapons. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. Theres room for disagreement, but probably only because some peoples pockets are bigger and can hold bigger guns. But again, the people have spoken: the Pico sucks. Copyright 2023 Center for the National Interest All Rights Reserved. What utter nonsense! The wisdom of the crowd phenomenon? Note that I said voted and not have ever even touched the gun at a pawn shop, let alone fired it.. Hey Dan, what gun have you designed or invested in? Mild. However it is not any where near the build quality of the Beretta Pico. How do they perform? And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. Just a BS review to gain clicks and views. Bounce is not horrible but that along with size will take some of the enjoyment out of the session. I think the SCCY might be marginally better and has 2 mags. Given how clannish and brand-loyal a lot of gunners are, it wouldnt shock me if about half the votes against the SCCY were cast because it wasnt a Glock 43, or something equally biased and stupid. The warranty cant be beat. So, I would never consider one. Anyway, all just my opinion here. It came back still not fixed. TTAG is the Roseanne Barr of reviews. The trigger is fantastic, and reassuring in handling and holstering (leather IWB) in ways that Glock is not. You should consider using a Bayesian average for this situation. One for range and one for carry. I laughed when I got to the CM40. I would buy one if I needed another inexpensive backup carry gun. I actually have the cm9 and cw380 both and never an issue with either one. Guess what? Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. Well, Taurus only makes one gun that really meets the pocket pistol criteria set forth in the article. I would have bet the farm that the Ruger LCP was the worst small pistol ever created. Ed Brown alpha elite: 3.2. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. Super long heavy pull, which is understandable on a DA only no safety gun. The Sccy gets a 4.3 rating and it stinks? My old PPK/s doesnt like Blazer alum. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock The Kahr chokes on all kinds of ammo. Its been reliable since then for me. Never had a malfunction, easy to shoot, accurate, and good looking whats not to like? Surprised the Remington R51 didnt make this list. A lot of those people who diss these guns are those that run hollowpoints or high pressure rounds. Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? Do they now have 12 round mags? Lol, a very nice DAO, the new Gen is much lighter. One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. I have heard the PiCO may be TOO small. For its purpose, NOT Bullseye competition, it is a fine gun. I do feel though that its a little too light for a 9mm caliber . That said, I have never tried to pocket-carry one so Im not voting on it in terms of that specific criteria. It is light and works. The problem with the group wisdom line of thinking is that you cannot separate the people with actual hands on experience with the firearm in question from actual users, which is always a problem with new guns. This gun is selling better than ever years later. I live in Utah, so in the wintertime its a very high probability that Ill be wearing some type of glove. Jimenez was one former name for Cobra also Loren was also a former name . Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. Ive never seen one that ran well or was anything but unpleasant to shoot, provided you can get more than one round off without a misfeed. The SCCY is even rated for +P ammo, in modest doses, according to the company. I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. WebBest 9mm Concealed Carry (CCW) Pistol - SIG Sauer P365. The trigger is about smooth and deliberate. This guy most definitely does not have one clue about the Pico. (dead serious) took it right back to the store. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. After the 200 round break in if you have any, then yes you should be pissed. Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. Unlike several riflesOh wait I might get a 22mag but not for big money. Did you ever lubricate the gun, or did you just load it and shoot it? You have to use the recommened ammo in the manual. the fact you just dont like it? Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . 5 Best 380 Pistols for Concealed Carry in 2022 - Gun News Ive been averaging one light hammer strike every magazine or two, that requires a second pull of the trigger to ignite, regardless of ammo brand. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. In regards to the Cobra a lot of people dissing the gun are those who fire hollowpoints through it. The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. Because they just have a vendetta against these manufacturers? Considering the price point of the SCCY, its fit, finish and functionality is excellent. It has the stopping power necessary to approach a threat, while still maintaining the size required for comfortable everyday carry. Keltec P-11 listed as 10+1 on THEIR website. He may want to trade the SCCY with the safety in for one of the newer ones without a safety. Like a great car or movie, a great firearm can become a true classic. Encountered types on the old KT forums that whines like a little girl. Im not saying every single person who votes needs to leave a full, detailed review, but encouraging people to at least leave a couple pros/cons would be most helpful. The Type 94 Shiki Kenju. Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? Com-block mack chambered pistols, walthers, and the like just have better reliability w/ less break in. Double strike capability, Magazines all stainless that look like custom 1911 mags. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. As far as the magazine release, its perfect for my needs. 400 rounds! Ruger LCR in 38 spcl +P. From what I have heard the folks at SCCY provide great customer service. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. This crowdsourced data points arent perfect, but if a product gets a statistically significant number of votes, we get a pretty good idea of how it stacks up thanks to the wisdom-of-crowds phenomenon. But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. 3) SCCY Industries CPX-2(4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes). Its a sharp designed pistol with a great price . I dont know the story behind why but we can only guess. The only thing about that bill is that allows those in a govt approved marksmenship program to buy them first. For instance, I have owned 4 lcps and the pico will run circles around them. i cant effectively describe the feel of the action; except to say it was similar to dragging a cinder block up a gravel hill. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. Ive had one for 5 years with no more problems than a Kel-tech 380, and Ruger LCP I compared side by side at the range. Look at the back of the slide. Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? Also, I dont consider the CPX-2 to be a pocket pistol, nor should it be compared to some of the little single stack fluff-pieces the articles author referenced. These guns shoot any ammo I have fed it. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. 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