darth vader vs mace windu comic
The rivalry ends on Geonosis. "Believed by many Jedi to be on par with Master Yoda in his skills with the lightsaber. Kar attacks again, and Mace immediately intercepts his blows with physical strikes that disable Kar's arms: "Vastor fired another of those blinding slaps. ", i actually asked for quotes stating mace is close to sidious in terms of power not yoda is that the case then anakin have also quotes during that time that states he is the most powerful jedi. mace can't handle sidious lightning like vader can, therefore is weaker in the force. Well a freshly suited Vader did ragdoll Sidious... Yeah, obviously Sidious wouldn't be able to break free from it like Kirak did. Raw power is just another term for your pure power" Sorry my wording was off but I meant pure power as in Anakins potential. Anakin is not above Sidious. It is categorised under the Legends Canon. @firelordiroh: sidious scaling acolytes scaling and Anakin scaling. You've got to remember how far we've come from the character when he was Anakin. Vader has better feats,accolades, and scaling. 'How many arms do you see?' @deutschkurzhaar: old obi wan was younger than count dooku, qui gon, yoda, sidious. Good for Mace for landing the killer shot, but it says a lot about his inability to finish a vulnerable Vastor. Darth Vader is a Dark Lord of the Sith and the apprentice of Emperor Palpatine, ruler of the Galactic Empire. When man and machine were one, he no longer felt the absence of his legs or arms, the pain of his flesh, but the hate remained, and the rage still burned. Mace is not vaguely around Dooku's level. I… as well as The second most powerful person under George Lucas supporting his idea saying Vader would beat Post ROTS Yoda. further backed up by the fact vader is later confirmed by lucas to be 80% percent of sidious: “Anakin, as Skywalker, as a human being, was going to be extremely powerful,” he says. … like always people then to misunderstood the entire quote the reason becuase lucas stated that its was becuase vader,dooku and maul were failures that do not post a threat anymore to palpatine it literally states it right there. Mace tried to follow up and threw the kitchen sink at Vastor but younger man was too resilient and soon regained the momentum. Only a desperate Force-push of his own altered his path enough that he slammed into a stanchion instead of plunging half a kilometer from the ledge outside.He bounced off and the Force cleared his head and once again he gave himself to Vaapad"". Plus, Filoni saw an opportunity to really highlight their characters with a quick, decisive battle. Well Vader has Superior Scaling, and Force feats compared to Mace. '', “This is a fight you cannot win, Darth. Writers can get away with a lot of idiocy. @kilius: I don't think this necessarily contradicts anything i said. Mace got his hand chopped off, then failed to tank ROTS sheev lightning. Mace has also defeated Sora Bulq with ease at the end of their duel and is described as moving faster than a blaster bolt in Jedi Tales issue 13. SAY “WHAT” AGAIN! Mace runs up to him, and taunts him. And obviously he was gaining more knowledge of the force. As such, he commanded incredible influence over the Jedi Council and subsequently the Jedi Order itself. Darth Vader: Yes. Yes he does, as per George Lucas stated ROTS Suit Vader is 80% of ROTS Sidious full power. Fight takes place in the Sundari Royal Palace. As soon as Mace sank into Vaapad, he effortlessly stomped Vastor in their first fight. Maybe he was still a bit flash-blind-the Korun Master seemed to be fading in and out of existence, half swallowed by a thickening black haze in which danced a meter-long bar of sunfire. I haven't read the novel but I've heard Mace was hindered by a injury and dark side nexus when he fought his brother. E.G., Anakin has more raw power than Obi-Wan, but the latter has a greater knowledge of the Force. Darth Vader #6 takes place between the events … Though i think Ben's feats against Vader and Maul are still fair. The gap in dueling isn't as great in Canon, and Vader should still be well ahead of Mace in power. "there *non* canon sources" Yeah, you're right here I was wrong to say that but G-canon still holds higher legitimacy. Eyes glazing, half stunned, the lor pelek slid bonelessly down the akk's armored ribs, and staggered as his feet skidded over gnarled roots.". Mace had him trapped against the Ark dog, once the Ark dog moves away Vastor is able to retreat and recover. But if you cut me down, I will only become more powerful. Within the armoed forces Vader now holds absolute power over the higher Imperial officers who scorned him earlier in his career. I DARE YOU! However, the numerous tragedies he suffered during his service to the Jedi Order in the Clone Wars took their toll on Skywalker, making the young knight desperate to find a way to protect his lover Padme Amidala. Vader is thus a far more formidable foe on Bespin than he was against Ben Kenobi on the Death Star. He defended himself from getting thrown to his death and was still launched into the stanchion. A master of every single form of lightsaber combat and numerous aspects of the Force, only Jedi as powerful as Grand Master Yoda could call themselves his peer in battle. Mace Windu vs Darth Vader # Mace Windu Form 7 is super effective against dark siders. Among other visions, Yoda saw a hooded figure slay Jedi Masters Agen Kolar, Saesee Tiin, and Kit Fisto in quick succession. 'Want to be impressed?' Dooku defeated a substantially pre-prime Mace before having left the order in a tough duel. SAY “WHAT” ONE … Yes he is George Lucas stated he he above him and would have killed ROTS Sidious. Another layer of serenity. Vader has largely freed himself of pain through the Force in the years since the Battle of Yavin and, by practice with living opponents both willing and unwilling, he has advanced his lightsaber technique. Obi-Wan is at a point, in my mind, where he’s become rather enlightened. Its true he beat Maul easier than he ever has before though its partially due to mind set. Even in Disney Canon it's implied in ANH that Kenobi is post-prime: "I'm getting to old for this sort of thing" "Your powers are weak old man". Va. Mace Windu wins! Source: Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader, only indication that he lose his ability to overthrow the emperor not a clue of actual overall power fam, besides the statement of You gotta be yoda or mace to face sidious what are other sources that put mace at the same level as palps that are backed by C canon source material? You got it. Remember Luke actually have Vader a fight in that film despite only lifting rocks for a couple of weeks. Vader wins in a grueling fight. ''He stared at his reflection a long time. Samuel L. Jackson was a well-known character actor before his breakthrough with Pulp Fiction and has since become one of the most popular actors in the world. Before Luke can join his father's side as a Sith Lord, Darth Vader must ensure no Jedi hermits remain. I think it is vader just because he has a longer period of time to learn about the force. Finally Vader got a Lot of prove he is close to sidious Even before entering the suit: 1-gillard/lucas tiering system this refers to pre suit Vader being a tier 9 mace is only 8 bordering nine, 2-fact file of the Empire strikes back that puts him as formidable as him. He’s not that young brash kid that went into a fight with Maul out of anger for the fact his master was killed. The thrill. Doesn't do nearly as much damage. How so? Almost Killed Him: Cylo. Darth Vader is a fictional character in the Star Wars franchise. Making me defend the archives while 2 waves of Jedi attack and destroy them. @lord_tenebrous: ok then memory failed me this time too long since i read the novel maybe like 3 years ago, why do you think its not legitimate material? Every design is as interesting as one would expect, such as Sith Luke and Obi-Wan donned in black with pale skin and dark eyes, along with redeemed and uninjured versions of Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker. Then Kar attacks again and is incapacitated with a single punch: "He used the impact to whirl in the air so that he could fall upon the Jedi Master like a branch leopard taking a tusker. To add to what I've said. 3-jedi vs sith and the rise and fall of Darth Vader. its a novel after all,different writers takes some different approaches with certain characters and when that happens is because of giving hype to the antagonist. Mace has matched a Gundark's strength and escaped from its grip in TCW which is a very impressive display of strength and force augmentation. regardless, The Jedi already said Vader was faster than every Jedi except Yoda. But Vader's saber combat also got affected. A cautious and wary individual, he was opposed to Anakin Skywalker's acceptance into the Jedi Order and was doubtful of th… So I guess Mace being unable to react to Sidious' initial attack, then getting driven back and held at blade point by Sidious, who for some reason decides not to stab through him equates to Mace stomping? Later the several sources states that Vader is more powerful than Anakin. George Lucas stated Suit Vader in ROTS was 80% of ROTS Full powers. And Vaders strength is a non factor if he fought a faster opponent. So his ability to be twice as good as the Emperor disappeared, and now he’s maybe 20 percent less than him. He tries it with anybody he thinks might be more powerful, which is what the Emperor was looking for in the first place: somebody who would be more powerful than he was and could help him rule the universe. But it doesn't change my point. If Old Ben had completed Vader's transition to the dark side, then Mace Windu certainly set it in motion. Without warning, Vastor's stalk became a lightning lunge, fingers hooked like talons, his arms sweeping wide to close on Mace once more -- but Mace wasn't there anymore. @americanspeeddemon: Did you just use the old obi wan vs Vader fight as an example?? You’ll see, as this goes on, Luke is faced with the same issues and practically the same scenes that Anakin is faced with. What kind of fucking technique do you have to have over someone else in regards to this basic ability. As soon as Mace sank into Vaapad, he effortlessly stomped Vastor in their first fight. From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor – he was like Darth Maul or Count Dooku. It was only short for stylistic reasons not because post prime Maul is in post prime Kenobi’s stomping range. @el_mago: How does Vader "scale" above Mace exactly? And Maul has been shown many times to be infinitely above random pirates. And he uses a custom fighting style that makes him a tank. Vader just had such slow movements that were easy to overcome. "4-lucas 2005 commentary rolling stones the cult of Vader interview" Where Lucas litereally states that Vader was on Dooku or Mauls level. Vastor turned it into an ineffective glancing blow. Star Wars creator George Lucas has collectively referred to the first six episodic films of the franchise as "the tragedy of Darth Vader".. Their blades flared and flashed, crashing together with bursts of fire, weaving nets of killing energy in exchanges so fast that Anakin could not truly see them-''. Mace Windu was a Human Jedi Master and arguably the Jedi Order's greatest warrior during the Clone Wars. Windu is not the only example of a purple lightsaber either, with Darth Revan from the Legends continuity famously wielding one. "besides the statement of You gotta be yoda or mace to face sidious what are other sources that put mace at the same level as palps that are backed by C canon source material?". I'd say he wins in a good fight, though it's not a stellar contest that Mace actually could win for a majority. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. It takes place shortly before the Battle of Yavin. Still vader by the share of better scaling. Whereas most lightsabers are either blue, green, or red, the purple lightsabers stand out as a noted exception to the pretty standard rules of Star Wars . I DOUBLE DARE YOU, MOTHERFUCKER! Vader has no shortage of feats fighting master level opponents. Vader hasn't dueled anyone i would say is as skilled as Dooku (though Ahsoka and Old Ben probably aren't too far away) but Vader has stomped a few jedi masters, an android stronger than Greivous and a sith lord. Cylo was a master of combining electronics and technology with the Force. Mace has said some questionable things before as well like Depa being a better duelist than him. So a lot of his ability to use the Force, a lot of his powers, are curbed at this point, because, as a living form, there’s not that much of him left. Changes nothing. The story was written by Ron Marz, with pencils by Rick Leonardi, inks by Terry Austin, letters by Steve Dutro and colors by Raúl Treviño. Once Vastor was able to recover and get his senses back Mace wasn't faster than him any more. Mace Windu: Say “what” again! But Vastor must have felt it coming; he pitched forward, rolling with the punch so that it flipped him end for end. “But he ended up losing his legs and an arm and became partly a robot. Also if you're going to argue that 'Anakin's raw power is evenly matched by Obi-Wan's technique' what technique exactly? His true power comes from scaling and accolades. @shootingnova: Also, I know this is an old post I'm replying to but. An ordinary man would have been unconscious.". Also Ahsoka has feats against Grievous and Ventress to scale to. Not one of those slaps connected. @americanspeeddemon: Well, ill respect your opinion. Kenobi, with his lightsaber, engaged a random Mandalorian who was only armed with a rifle and the guy disarmed Kenobi in close quarters. Vader has better strength feats than Grievous. He landed in perfect balance and sprang again, straight up; the kick Mace had aimed at his kidneys only grazed his calf muscle.". 'Let's see the impression my boot makes on your face.' Vader mops the floor with canon Mace. They are on the same tier. vader shits. Vader's strength in the Force exceeds him markedly. loljk I'll say it could probably go either way. Lol no. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. By feats Anakin might even be inferior. Lesson here, the good big man usually beats the good little man. He has since retracted that idea, and sources verbatim states that Vader is Sidious most powerful Apprentice. (Using the distraction, Mace slices off Vader’s robotic hand) Mace Windu: BASIC, MOTHERFUCKER! Yes, like how he totally overwhelmed Obi-Wan in their shared force push. His only impressive Force feat iirc would be overpowering Sidious' lightning. Standing toe to toe, the top of Mace's head barely came to the level of Vastor's chin, and you could have tucked Mace's whole thick-muscled upper body inside Vastor's chest with room to spare. It is a good feat but nothing suggests Vader or Dooku couldn't do something similar. Mace stomps HARD. Canon Vader loses but puts up a very good fight. That’s where his life went wrong. A force push is a force push. Jackson is also a major nerd in real life and during an interview on British talk show TFI Friday in the … “The instinct would be, and probably, I admit, the expectation, is for some kind of prolonged lightsaber battle. And even hurt, lurching drunkenly, Vastor still could whip his arms in blindingly fast raking slaps at Mace's head and wounded neck. Heed my words.”. Mace let him go.". That being said, it is still a Windu feat whether canon or legends. A respected Jedi on par with the venerable Yoda, Mace Windu is also a senior member of the Jedi High Council. Trying to deny its effectiveness against Vader would be ignorance and false. Anakin is just a better saber fighter plain and simple. ROTS Anakin is more powerful than ROTS Sidious. Mace Windu wins! At a young age, his artwork got him imprisoned by those who found it disturbing and repulsive for the very materials he had employed. during their first fight vastor make the Master work for a win nearly stomping him,it's right before the end of the book that mace wins. He wanted this really super guy, but that got derailed by Obi-Wan. Raw power is just another term for your pure power, aside from additional knowledge. Unless you think Vader is equal to RotS Sidious who to the best of my knowledge didn't improve by any source in canon by RotJ. In his fight against Sidious, along with Palpatine he is described as being too fast for Anakin to properly see (though he could obviously sense them). Posts about Mace Windu written by chan. Maul was confirmed to be post prime by Matt Martin and the fight was short for stylistic reasons. And why are you talking about the inconsistencies of the novel ? ", "Mace used the Force to hurl him off and send him tumbling through the air to slam into the flank of an agitated akk dog. http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/george-lucas-and-the-cult-of-darth-vader-20050602, Star Wars: The Last Battle, Vanity Fair Magazine, 2005. @deutschkurzhaar: Ahsoka was faster but Vader has really good defense and so it didn't matter. Vastor howled in pain and raging disbelief, falling back against the akk dog's flank once more, twisting and turning to try to find some way to avoid the Jedi's flashing hands.". Mace makes him work for each, but the outcome is pretty much the same each time. Mace has about another dozen of these quotes putting him up there with Yoda. Because Vaapad was more than just a form of lightsaber combat. He's slower as Vader but still fast enough to keep up with everyone he's fought so far. here you go again. Darth Vader wins! Mace has been stated numerous times during that time period to be only second to Yoda. But yes he did improve toward when he was nearing the end of protecting Luke, because thats when most of the threats started appearing. Who will win!? Mace takes sabers, Vader takes round 2 however the all out can go either way but I have to favor Mace as Vader just simply isnt coming out the gates dominating in the force. every source states that Anakin was overwhelming Obi-wan throughout the fight. And he was able to hold his own against Vader who's implied to be stronger than Dooku who has low diffed obi wan a few times. DO YOU SPEAK IT? Then Mace punches Kar in the nose twice before the latter could even blink: "A fierce light burned in Mace's eyes. Very close round 1 is Mace, 2 is Vader, 3 is either way. If my blade finds its mark, you will cease to exist. Mace Windu: Then you know what I’m saying? Those, he never relinquished, and he never felt more connected to the Force than when his fury burned. This is just Windu talking about raw power and this isn't the last time he'd praise Anakin so highly he considered him above Yoda during ROTS. Darth Momin, also known simply as Momin, was a male Sith Lord, dark side scholar, and sculptor. Mace has said a lot of questionable things in the past. "Reality is, Shatterpoint Mace is fodder." vader wins. So he finds that, with Luke, he can get a more primo version if he can turn Luke to the Dark Side. Don't give me that, Yoda said Anakin isn't as powerful as Sidious...because George Lucas had also stated Anakin would have killed Sidious right after he defeated Obi-wan which cements Anakin above ROTS Sidious. Kar attacks again and misses every single time, while Mace lands no less than six hits: "Before he could find his balance, Mace was on him. Mace in Shatterpoint is literal fodder. This opened the C… Pretty clear legends Vader is more powerful since he rivals to ROTJ Sidious, who is stated to be more powerful than ROTS Sidious by a wide margin. Vader being superior to a weaker Kar than the one Mace could at will vastly eclipse through Vaapad will not help him here. @firelordiroh: there *non* canon sources... lol there C canon sources and have the validity of being sourcematerial to the holocron of chee, Secondly the quotes of Anakin being>>Vader refers to potential. A respected Jedi on par with the venerable Yoda, Mace Windu was a senior member of the Jedi High Council. 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