Ryw, they sued, but I thought it was because "people would see PeaceKEEPER and think it was a PeaceMAKER". Title passes upon the fall of the auctioneer's hammer to the highest acknowledged bidder subject to the Conditions of Sale set forth herein, and the bidder assumes full risk and responsibility. 7 1/5" octagonal barrel; with ASM BLACK POWDER ONLY CAL. . They make the guns for Chiappa now and the quality is still the worst out of Italy. A.S.M. Didn't happen though. Copyright 2019 sassnet.com on May 08, 2021. what your gun is selling for. . ASM was one of the first Italian manufacturers back in 1960 along with Uberti. to impose a late charge of one and a half percent (1.5%) per thirty (30) days of the total purchase price The Italian manufacturer ASM was sold and nowadays the pistol is made by Ardesa and imported to the USA by Traditions Firearms of Old Saybrook, Connecticut. We do not recommend firing any heavy loads in a brass frame .44, anywhere from 15 to 22 grains. --------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------. Caliber: .44/40 Black powder. .31 Cal single shot Brass Italian Derringer. reserves the right to hold merchandise purchased by personal check until the check has cleared the bank. 1860 REPRODUCTION WAS MADE IN ITALY. Thanks for your patience. Table 1 shows recommended charges for CVA revolvers only. CVA ASM 1850 1858 1860 black powder 44 cal cylinder base pin bar frame brass. The owner was very knowledgeable about his business. . b.) This was sometime in the early 2000's. Credit cards will be run after the auction ends for payment. AFTER THE SALE But it's action Oh, it's action REALLY stank. Changes were made in the production guns to make sure they could not be passed off as an original. Parts Only . there web page. IT IS BLACK AND BRASS ON THE SIDE IT SAYS (SM BLACK POWDER ONLY CAL. None Currently For Sale. 44 Made in Italy"Underneath the loading lever is the serial number "E51471"Above the wedge slot ""US" and ". I had a few ASMs in the very early days. .. when I first tried sass back in the nineties this brand was Quite popular .. now that Ive returned to sass after ten plus year, never here or see any thing , Just curious mostly as they been sit in in my safe for over ten years.. they were fun to shoot for someone who couldn't afford real guns like me STAN. To add to the confusion Chiappa did purchase the 92 rifle tooling and left over parts from ASM. ), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (flint), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (perc), United States Patent Firearms Revolvers/Pistols, Century Arms International (CAI) - Shotguns. Derringer Black Powder Handgun, Two Antique Wood & Metal Toy Black Powder Guns, Pair of Fase (Spain) Cantilever Desk Lamps, CHANEL - 1998 98P - Karl Lagerfeld Skirt Crop Top Set - White/ Black - 44 US 12, VALENTINO GARAVANI Shoes (Other) Black 44(about 29cm), CHANEL 95A #44 CC Logos Button Double Breasted Long Sleeve Jacket Black, CHANEL - 08A Fall 2008 - Pointelle Knit Off Shoulder Dress - Black - FR 44 US 12, GOLDEN TEAK CRYSTAL MATTE BLACK FOYER LIVING DINING ROOM CHANDELIER 33 LIGHT 44", Fendi Black Grained Leather FF Motif Belt, Chopard K18PG LUC 1860 Cal. What are the advantages and disadvantages of video capture hardware? A fine 18K gold and stainless steel automatic chronograph bracelet watch with diamond set dial Model: Cosmograph Daytona Reference: 116503 Date: Recent Movement: 44-jewel Cal.4130 automatic, fr, IWC, Da Vinci Rattrapante, ref. While the Colt has been called the Peacemaker forever, I don't think Colt ever used the name. Terms: 13% buyer's premium. A.S.M. for example $500, but the same gun with a bad or rusted bore may It is a Navy Arms from at least twenty years ago. 312-374-9333, Tuesday Saturday All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. Steel frame with consecutive serial numbers, manufactured in 1982. UPC: Does not apply. i took it apart & cleaned it up. For property that is not picked up after thirty (30) calendar days, an additional administration fee of $75 will be charged. Not For Sale; Precious Metals; Barrels; Care & Cleaning . The second, also instituted in 1950, is the first black powder proof for Gardone and Brescia, and is only used on black powder arms. I shot ASM 58's in my early years. It only has the SM on the barrel. On lots with a low estimate of $500 and above and if a prospective buyer makes arrangements with us prior to the commencement of the sale we will use reasonable efforts to contact them to enable them to participate in the bidding by telephone and we do not accept liability for failure to do so or for errors and omissions in connection with telephone bidding. Hoe can I get a replacement? very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Pietta 1851 Navy .44 caliber black powder 6 shot revolver. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. All you have to do is go inside of a gun made by them and you will see how bad it is. Reserves are agreed upon with consignors or, in the absence thereof, the absolute discretion of Kraft Auction Service LLC. We use security measures to protect against the loss, misuse and alteration of data used by our system. Serial Number E05147, Made in Italy, 8 inch barrel , Single Action. If property is not picked up within the pick-up days following the sale, whether or not payment has been made, Kraft Auction Service LLC. This revolver issued in kit form. Ignition is #10 Revolver Percussion Caps. Non Payment The cylinder is engraved with a naval battle scene and the words, "Engaged 16 May 1843. Top is labeled "Navy Arms Ridgefield nj." Bottom side has a six digit number "1001XX". CVA ASM 1850 1858 1860 black powder revolver 44 backstrap trigger guard brass $45.00 0 bids $7.64 shipping 7d 9h or Best Offer 1860 Army Black Powder Revolver Shoulder Stock - Pietta $139.95 $12.95 shipping 28 watching Pietta 1851 Navy .36 Cal. Serial Number: E01965 Year of Manufacture: 1994 Caliber: .44 Cap and Ball (Percussion) Action Type: Single Action Cap & Ball (Percussion) Revolver Markings: The right side of the barrels are marked "ASM BLACK POWDER ONLY CAL. Right side of the barrel marked "ASM Black Powder Only Cal 44 Made in Italy". The handle is made of wood. He knew the early production were quality gun and at some point there was a move and or change of management and quality went in the crapper. If you received a mailing from us, (a) your email address is either listed with us as someone who has expressly shared this address for the purpose of receiving information in the future ("opt-in"), or (b) you have registered or purchased or otherwise have an existing relationship with us. Shooting, Reading, Riding my Horses, Maintaining my Ranch, Conversing With Friends and Family, Fixing Guns, (good) Old Western Movies, CAS, guns and shooting, guitar, reading, writing, CAS, shooting of any kind, music, baseball, THINGS THAT GO BANG! I have an ASM made, Cimarron marked, 1860 Richards. Still have one that is now a back up. c.) to cancel the sale Black Powder Hand Guns 1847 Walker 1848 Dragoon Pocket Models 1851-1861 Navy 1858 Remington 1860 Army 1873 Cattleman BP LeMat Percussion Pistols Flintlock Pistols Conversion Cylinders Walker Conversion . *Caliber, Barrel Length, Generations, Sub Models may all affect item price. Tuesday December 29th and Wednesday December 30th The only real lemon was an ASM. We rate this 1862 Pocket as Very Good, close to Excellent, 85 percent vicinity by our estimate; photos ought to suffice so that our shoppers can judge finish grade for themselves. i was given 3 pistols. The ASM firing pin holes in the recoil shields weren't hardened so they tend to develop a dimple that the primer flows in to binding the cylinder. is for Armi San Marco, an italian factory making black Pietta Model 1851 Navy .44 Cal Unbox | Cabelas Black Powder Revolver Fix It Now 59.9K subscribers Subscribe 90K views 9 years ago Here is an un-boxing of the popular Pietta 1851 .44 Cal. Then you must like AWA Peacekeepers (made by Armi San Marco), right? Two were pretty good while the third and last was not. Neither Kraft Auction Service LLC. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. I don't shoot as much as others on the forum so the wear on soft internal parts might not be as apparent to me as to more frequent shooters. *Any items remaining after Saturday of sale will be recosigned on buyers behalf in next Auction*. It was a good gun but it went down the road in a swap as I don't care for the grip frame on the Remingtons. Information announced day of sale takes precedence over printed material. For all practical purposes, the import of Italian replica cartridge sixguns started in 1962. is not responsible for the correctness of any statement of any kind concerning any lot, whether written or oral, nor for any other errors or omissions in description or for any faults or defects in any lot. Advanced . This is an unusual brass single shot, .31 caliber, in-line, black powder percussion Derringer. Stamped on the right side of the barrel are the words, "A.S.M. Kelvin Fisher - AU19500120 - 219-851-5670 Appears used very little. This was sold and moved to Marietta, OH., and then, in around 1973, was sold to Navy Arms. Description: A.S.M. *44 caliber cylinder with good chambers and good bluing, with a slight turn line *Factory nipples *8-inch barrel with a good bore *Tension screw on hammer spring allows you to adjust the cocking force *Dovetailed front sight and loading lever catch This is a nice Remmie -- One of ASM's better efforts I don't know if the frame is steel or brass, how do you tell? It has blondish colored Italian hardwood grip panels. But, since we don't spin in SASS, it's not a problem I worry about. powder firearms. Please Note: Firearms Buyers are required by Federal law to pass a criminal background check prior to taking possession of firearms. Thanks for clearing that up for me Steve, I do know however that the 74's made by the Chiappa are, having problems. The bottom of the cylinders are still shiny. Italy. If any dispute arises after the sale, our sale record is conclusive. I have owned a dozen or more 1860 Army copies. sale record shall be conclusive. Also, ASM use forged frames instead of castings on many of their revolvers. HAMILTON, 14K YELLOW GOLD OPEN FACE POCKET WATCH 44.00 mm case diameter, matte silvered dial, black Arabic numerals, subdial for seconds at 6 o'clock, stem wound and set Cal. Its parts will interchange with all 3 of my Colt 2nd Gen 1851, except the barrel (the pins at the front of the frame are placed differently). Denster estimated about $450.00 for the pair . Recently heard a story about ASM, that they moved out of the big city to a smaller town in the country. Chiappa (I visited them too) it a totally different story, rather "big" factory. 7% Indiana sales tax. He knew the early production were quality gun and at some point there was a move and or change of management and quality went in the crapper. (No, I didn't win it my son beat me in the shoot-off. It is a very pretty gun with a 24 octogon barrel and a case hardened receiver. There, you should find a roman numeral or two character alphabetical stamp. Depending on model and condition there can be considerable spread in value. Seller's Description. The only Armi San Marcos gun I have a repro 1858 Remington that I bought in the early 1980s and it works fine. Details; Terms; Directions; . d.) to resell the property publicly or privately with such terms as we find appropriate, to resell the property at public auction without reserve, and with the purchaser liable for any deficiency, cost, including handling charges, the expenses of both sales, our commission on both sales at our regular rate, all other charges due hereunder and incidental damages. Cylinder capacity is 6 rounds of .451, .454, or .457 diameter round balls or similar size conical projectile. Free shipping for many products! Were offering this one, however, for only $ 139.00. Feedback. Over 2000 Lots of 40+ Guns, Coins, Vintage Advertising, Antiques, Tools, Equipment, New Building Supplies & Much More!! Made in Italy. It has blondish colored Italian hardwood grip panels. 104 S. Michigan Ave. When Puma started having the 92's made by them instead of Rossi in Brazil, they increased the prices but not the workmanship. Larry Fisher - 574-298-8909, Auction Terms & Conditions Auction Terms & Conditions Auction Terms & Conditions General Terms: Cash, all major credit cards, or good check with positive ID. Case color hammer with walnut grips. It has the Colt engaving reproduced on the cyclinder, brass frame, and beautiful wood handles. Nice brass frame ASM 44 cal Model 1860 Revolver. ASM BLACK POWDER HANDGUN 44 CAL ITALY 249.6 BLACK POWDER HAND GUN "PISTOL" 44 CALIBER, MADE IN ITALY. I don't know whatever happened to that lawsuit or maybe it was just a rumor? ASM are not the best in the world they've had problems with soft internals. We believe this Italian replica of the Colt 1862 Pocket Navy Model revolver is Armi San Marco production, of Brescia, Italy. Since 2002, LiveAuctioneers has made exceptional items available for safe purchase in secure online auctions. It is only marked, Made in Italy, and with an unclear makers mark above the loading lever. blue book publications as well as many of the other hunting and No, there is little if any chance "any" parts you currently see, other than springs, that would work in an ASM. Colt 1851 Navy 36 Cal Black Powder Only Durys # 4759. But, Armi Sport is still in business (under a new name). and the box is marked with a sticker that says "ARMI SAN MARCO MADE IN ITALY 1851 NAVY STEEL CAL .44 USE BLACK POWDER ONLY COD. will only look to the principal for payment. This heavy revolver was originally manufactured by Remington and was widely used during the Civil War. FFL Required for Transfer. Replica Arms was the first importer for ASM revolvers, the first being the 1847 Walker. See American Western Arms Inc. listing. We ship all winning items for buyers at the buyer's expense. ASM 2nd Model Dragoon. View All For Sale. My dad got them in 1984, so that would put them as earlier ASMs. I have an ASM Colt clone. Parts are still available on a limited basis from VTI. engraved with a Indian and Texas Rangers scene. Made in Italy | Kraft Auction Service Login / New Bidder Current Auctions Past Auctions Email List Feedback / Question Back to Catalog There should also be a rollmarked A.S.M. Barrel is 8" and on the side says: SM BLACK POWDER ONLY CAL .44 MADE IN ITALY. There is an engraving (naval battle scene?) Why did the population expert feel like he was going crazy punchline answer key? A few years ago the trigger just wore out. They moved the factory from where all the other factories are to a more remote area and some of the workers didn't want to leave their home so they lost a lot of expertise. 7% Indiana sales tax. Questions encouraged. I have a pair of ASM-made and marked, EMF Hartford Colt reproduction revolvers in .45 Colt, 5 1/2" barrels. Credit card on file will be run immediately after the auction for invoices totaling under $2500. BLUED FINISH, WOOD GRIPS, BRASS FRAME, 8" BARREL, 6 SHOT. Prospective buyers are strongly advised to personally examine any property in which they are interested before the auction takes place.. All lots are sold AS IS and without recourse and neither Kraft Auction Service LLC. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. ASM 1858 1863 pocket. I called VTI. You will not be able to bid in this auction without registering. We will never share, sell, or rent individual personal information with anyone without your advance permission or unless ordered by a court of law. At our option, payment will not be deemed to have been made in full until we have collected funds represented by checks, or in the case of bank or cashier's checks, we have confirmed their authenticity. I considered making a set of lamps out of them but decided to give them away at 1/3 of what I paid for them. Make sure your search is specific enough to get the correct value. Weight empty is only 41 ounces, with center of gravity at the cylinder face. 1860 Army's in really nice shape. Didn't Colt threaten to sue ASM because of they're use of a "pony" on the grip? Get the best deals on 44 black powder when you shop the largest online selection at eBay.com. In the event of a dispute between bidders, the auctioneer has final discretion to determine the successful bidder or to reoffer the lot in dispute. Black Powder Cylinder -'Old Silver' -Naval Scene $161.00 $14.10 shipping Is the volume of resulting sugar mixture equal more than or less than the sum (20 ml sugar 50 ml water ) of the volumes of the unmixed sugar and water? The buyer 's expense size conical projectile totally different story, rather `` big '' factory invoices totaling under 2500... 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